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A Leprechaun · Nov 16, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

I generally use both, I think the only reason for skills like these is for the times when you have 5+ foes close together, if it was always just 4 foes close together I would rather just use a prep and BA or something and take them down 1 by 1 or Barrage + Volley them to oblivion. So I say Barrage is the best out of the two , but there are better options when facing small groups.

~A Leprechaun~

Elrien Silentfoot · Nov 16, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by lennymon

You only left off the most glaringly broken combos... consider the ramifications of volley + glass arrows or incendiary arrows... no preps will ever work with it.

I mentioned incendiary arrows... just called it burning arrow by mistake.

As for glass arrows, well, I've only had nightfall for a month and it honestly slipped my mind. Taking a look at it, I don't exactly see what the problem would be. Niether the damage nor the bleeding is terribly difficult to create using other skill combinations.

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The reason they don't allow preps is for the very same reason that splinter weapon just got a nerf, hmm?

No. As long as Ursan Blessing exists, it's highly unlikely that SW was nerfed for pve reasons. As for PvP, the mechanic of SW+Barrage is entirely untouched, unless you can show me a situation where SW reliably was used with barrage to hit more than 12 targets at once.

From the looks of it, SW was nerfed to stop someone from hitting, say, 6 or 7 targets 4 times in a row using a single attack.

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If you're in a situation where splinter barrage is *actually* the right thing to bring you'll still have 2 barrages per ability to reapply splinter... hence a big reason volley is superior with splinter. You don't waste your elite spot and volley times better with splinter.

Indeed.

Horseman Of War · Nov 16, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

glass arrow + volley + my favorite weapon spells = my ranger "D

Elrien Silentfoot · Nov 16, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

glass arrow + volley + my favorite weapon spells = my ranger "D

Huh?

I'm going to guess that you're trying to imply that using glass arrows and a weapon spell and volley all together would be overpowered.

You may be right, but it would be pretty easy to change it so you can only use a preperation OR a weapon spell at once.

Clarissa F · Nov 18, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

I'd rather carry volley, because, as mentioned before, it doesn't take up an elite slot. I'd rather spread degen with Poison arrow/burning arrow and have volley for mob pressure, than deal with the condition removal of barrage, which negates any preps you might want to use. Volley gives you the choice for elites with conditions. Barrage takes that option away.

Grammar · Nov 19, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Volley: All your Preparations are removed. Shoot arrows at up to 3 foes adjacent to your target. These arrows strike for +1...8 damage if they hit.

I get the impression from a few of the posts here, such as the posts directly above me, that some people are forgetting that Volley also removes all preps.
Just thought I'd point that out for clarification.

And my answer to the OP's question: neither.

Omniclasm · Nov 19, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

[skill]Ebon Dust Aura[/skill] + Volley

Nuff' said.

lennymon · Nov 19, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

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Originally Posted by Elrien Silentfoot

No. As long as Ursan Blessing exists, it's highly unlikely that SW was nerfed for pve reasons. As for PvP, the mechanic of SW+Barrage is entirely untouched, unless you can show me a situation where SW reliably was used with barrage to hit more than 12 targets at once.

From the looks of it, SW was nerfed to stop someone from hitting, say, 6 or 7 targets 4 times in a row using a single attack.

As for 12+ targets, cant think of anything besidesin PVE with big pulls in tombs with a real group but that's completely irrelevant. My statement was perhaps not quite clear (or obvious) enough... SW was nerfed because of it's glaring effectiveness at taking out the guards at vod... not pve. So, your induction based on a false assumption is correct.

BTW Glass Arrows is in Factions.

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Originally Posted by Omniclasm

EDA+volley=win

lol, volley+splinter+Ursan Blessing = win too ;P

edit (and not because of splinter weapon OR volley)